Becoming the new standard discussion tool for open source projects

March 13, 2015, 11:24 am

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@NicholasChammas wrote:

If you ran an open source project in the 90s and wanted to provide a place for your users or contributors to discuss things, you most likely did the following:

1. Setup a mailing list, probably using Mailman.
2. Start an IRC channel, probably on Freenode.

Fast forward 20+ years, and the picture looks... mostly the same.

Of course, we have Stack Exchange -- which is a great thing! -- but more open-ended or intimate discussion for these open source communities, even new ones, is still predominantly conducted using these ancient tools.

Some examples:

• Fabric, a popular Python SSH orchestration tool and library, uses a mailing list and IRC.
• Homebrew, a popular package manager for OS X, uses a mailing list and IRC.
• boto, a popular Python library for interacting with Amazon Web Services, uses IRC.
• Phabricator, a code review tool (plus other things) originally developed at Facebook, uses IRC.
• The entire set of projects under the Apache Foundation, old and new, uses mailing lists for discussion.

These tools work well, and for some open source communities (e.g. Apache, which I discussed in a separate thread), moving off them is unlikely to happen. But for new projects, or existing communities willing to change their discussion tooling, Discourse should be a no-brainer. (I see, for example, that Docker knows where the good stuff is at. Good on them.)

What does the Discourse team think of positioning their product as the successor to the "mailing list + IRC channel" combo for open source projects? Perhaps by offering free hosting?

Obviously, this would be a strategic move with no short-term financial gain. Instead, targeting open source communities would win Discourse a couple of things over the long run:

1. Capture mindshare with developers who run infrastructure at their companies and influence decisions about, for example, forum software to use.
2. Grow on a community of users who are, as open source users/devs themselves, very well positioned to contribute back to Discourse.

What do you think?

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March 13, 2015, 1:45 pm

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@chrisadams wrote:

This is probably a stupid question, but I am unsure and figured I would ask before screwing up something.

I have recently moved hosting companies for the ability to specifically have the option of installing Docker and Discourse. I built a web server on a Ubuntu 14.04 droplet.

If I were to install Docker and Discourse, does it override my current networking setup (index files and apache setup networking, etc..)?

Not sure if this makes sense and I think I am over thinking it and confusing myself, but I want to install it as a sub directory so that when I go to mydomain.com/discourse it pulls up.

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Unable to upload profile picture

March 13, 2015, 2:26 pm

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@Grif wrote:

I'm trying to change my profile picture on http://community.p2pu.org/ (our Discourse is up to date).

When I select a square .jpg from my local drive, I see the upload bar go to 100%, but then it disappears and my icon remains the system-assigned profile picture.

I just updated my profile picture here on meta to the same .jpg and, as you can see, had no trouble doing so.

Any ideas? Cheers.

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Read Only banner should float

March 13, 2015, 4:14 pm

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@dkf wrote:

When a Discourse instance is read-only, a banner is placed at the top of each topic page to inform users that this is the case. However, when one's main viewing mode is to look at the ends of topics only (e.g., if they happen to be enduring discussions) then the banner is only rarely seen if at all. Could the read-only banner be made to float somehow (similar to the overall site banner/topic title) so that it informs people who are near the bottom of a topic that they still can't post replies or otherwise do stateful interactions?

It's particularly important where an extended period of downtime happens.

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March 13, 2015, 5:07 pm

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@strager wrote:

Not sure if this is intentional or not, but here on Meta I appear to be able to modify other users subject lines - for example I added an extra "t" to https://meta.discourse.org/t/read-only-banner-should-floatt/26315/1

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Manual Backup not starting

March 13, 2015, 8:54 pm

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@TJO wrote:

Hey all -

After the update to v1.3.0.beta3 +17, executing a manual backup in the GUI isn't doing anything. The popup for "include images" etc, doesn't show up. Running on Ubuntu 14.04.2. 1G RAM / 1G Swap.

My upgrade was via the CLI - cd /var/discourse ; git pull ; ./launcher rebuild app

No errors seen.

Plenty of disk space (19G avail) and this is what I've tried:

• stop app
• start app
• rebuild app
• reboot(s)
• apt-get upgrade to the latest
• restart app
• another git pull (Already up-to-date.)
• cleared history / cache etc

I can, however, upload and delete old backups via the interface. I pulled a backup right before the upgrade; I have not attempted a restore.

In the (GUI) logs screen, I have:

No logs yet...

This is on EC2 -- and I run a 'test' site, so to speak, on a Parallels VM at home -- and it seems to be fine - upgrade done the same way, except it was done on 3/11, it does say +17 as well. I'm testing in a tab, right beside the 'problem' site - and the backup works just fine.

I'm at a loss.

Any thoughts? Did I miss something stupid?

Thanks!

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Archive categories

March 14, 2015, 2:04 am

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@Maestra_Powers wrote:

I have a lot of categories on my forum, some of them are active, some are dead. I agree with @codinghorror that there's shouldn't be too many categories, specially when there's dead categories mixed with alive together - it creates a meeting on graveyard atmosphere, noone wants to go there. But I don't want to delete old categories, it's a history of my community. My forum is about games, so people like to go back time to time, read old posts, see screenshots with old victories and nostalgy. So what I'm planning to do now is to create another Discourse forum on old subdomain and move old categories there manually.

It would be awesome if there would be easier way to move dead categories from main categories page where users can access and read old stuff. Maybe by collapsing them in some sort of spoiler? And it would be even more awesome if people could resurrect old category from archive by starting an activity there. Maybe someone could make a plugin for this?

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March 14, 2015, 3:43 am

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@ajaypalnitj wrote:

How can I use PM2 with discourse (docker) ?

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Blank category descriptions

March 14, 2015, 5:21 am

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@Maestra_Powers wrote:

Sometimes category names are self-explanatory and they don't need descriptions. For example, on my forum I have category Dota 2 - what else here to explain? Making unnecessary descriptions like "this is category for Dota 2" is a terrible thing. At first I thought I can make descriptions blank by putting default text there, but nope - once you edited description, there is no way back.

I fixed this by creating new category and moved all sub-categories there, then just deleted old one with "broken" description topic. Now I just scared to touch those description topics. Can you please add a legit way to disable descriptions on some categories?

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Migrating from SMF to Discourse

March 14, 2015, 6:15 am

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@dbm wrote:

Greetings,

I'm planing to migrate from SMF 2.0.9 to Discourse. I already have discourse running and everything is working fine. So my question is it possible to "RESET" discourse to look like i installed it fresh. And then migrate to Discourse from SMF?

EDIT: Also i have Woltlab 4.0.8 forum running (Also i can migrate to phpbb or any other that is required for the simpliest migration) ty

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March 14, 2015, 6:21 am

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@Maestra_Powers wrote:

I code jQuery, but usually I don't have to deal with real-time softwares or dynamic content loading. Usually when I have to do something after content loaded, I just do this.

$(document).ready(function() {
    // do stuff
});

And if I need to catch some user's action, I do this.

$(document).on('click', '.element', function(event) {
    // do stuff
});

With Discourse it's a bit tricky to catch "document ready" event, because document changes dynamicly. I'm thinking about starting a timer when user clicks on any a button. Timer will wait for loading wheel to disapear and then "do stuff" with loaded page. But maybe there's simplier build-in callbacks for this?

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How to install custom plugins in Discourse? Beginners Guide

March 14, 2015, 6:23 am

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@Mohammad wrote:

I have always used shared hosting for my Wordpress sites and I have never came across cloud hosting before. It is really easy uploading files on Wordpress sites using FTP clients like FileZilla
I want to know how can I install official discourse plugins in my forum which is setup on digital ocean.
I need step by step guide. I have never came across the word DOCKER ever in my life so kindly be specific in explaining this

Consider me as a beginner who knows only stuff regarding shared hosting and Wordpress installation and who is new to Cloud hosting and DOcKER stuff

Are official discourse plugins not auto installed in upgrade process or we need to add them ourselves as per requirement. Take an example of the plugin bbcode color tag and guide me how can I add it to my forum ask.mybloggertricks.com

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March 14, 2015, 12:24 pm

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@watchmanmonitor wrote:

I just logged in to http://try.discourse.org to see if this was working yet:

And saw that in about a month, the google oauth it's using will be discontinued. I'm posting this as a general heads-up to anyone using old Google OAuth on their site.

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Multisite configuration step by step

March 14, 2015, 12:54 pm

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@toutestici wrote:

Hello everyone,

I successfully installed Discourse on Digital Ocean by following this guide. I would like now configure multisite in order to enjoy Discourse on another site. I have already read posts on the subject and the @sam's ""How to"". I tried to change the ""hook section"" in app.yml as indicated in the guide, but it returned me an error.

I read that it better to separate web and data containers, but I don't know how to do that. So if someone is able to do a step by step to configure multisite from A to Z for typical Digital Ocean installation that would be great and helpful!

Thank you very much for your help!

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March 14, 2015, 1:45 pm

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@sam wrote:

It appears the custom Emoji set is missing from the backups.

cc @zogstrip

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Images imported from phpBB aren't always lightboxed

March 14, 2015, 2:24 pm

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@gerhard wrote:

I'm currently testing an enhanced version of the phpBB importer (I'd like to send a PR during the next few days).

Anyway, during testing I've noticed that imported attachments (images) are not always lightboxed. It seems to depend on when Sidekiq is started. I'm not sure if this is only a problem in my development environment or if this is some kind of bug in the importer or Discourse. Maybe @neil or someone else from the team can help me out here.

What I've noticed so far:

• Lightboxing works if Sidekiq isn't running during the import. It has to be started after the import is done and after Discourse is started.
• If Sidekiq is running during the import or if Sidekiq is started before Discourse then the lightboxing won't work.

I didn't see any errors in the logs, so I'm not sure what's happening here. I can reproduce this behaviour with the existing phpBB importer. I've uploaded a ZIP file with a database dump containing just one topic and an attached image as an example.

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User edits his last comment, gets "composer was opened without a draft key"

March 14, 2015, 6:33 pm

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@daath wrote:

One of my users use an iPhone and Safari. When he tried to edit his posts he gets the message "composer was opened without a draft key".

Some specifics according to himself:

If I try to edit a comment and it happens again, I'll keep you informed. It actually has happened 5 or 6 times. However, let's say I go up to another comment in the same thread, I have no issues with editing previous comments. Only happens on the last comment I have made in the thread. Weird!

Link to thread:

I'm on v1.3.0.beta3 +19 (https://github.com/discourse/discourse/tree/399418e1ff186651cedb3044f7d807b8105e670f)

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UX of copying to clipboard the link to a post

March 14, 2015, 9:39 pm

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@dandv wrote:

Story: desktop user wants to share a link to a post via a channel of their choice.

Discourse UX issue with copying link to post.gif773x635 107 KB

Right clicking the "link" icon doesn't work, because the element is a button. The user has to left click the "link" icon, then right click the link in the popup and copy it to clipboard, then close the popup. Slightly cumbersome.

On the other hand, clicking the "link" button does reveal extra actions, so conceptually it should be a button and not an anchor element.

Just putting this UX issue up there for potential discussion.

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Don't trigger digests on migration?

March 15, 2015, 12:00 am

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@dandv wrote:

I've just migrated a large number of posts from MyBB and there were many jobs scheduled. I was using Gmail's SMTP to send emails (our forum is low volume). The migration seems to have triggered digest email jobs ({"type"=>"digest", "user_id"=>4889, "current_site_id"=>"default"}), and this triggered Gmail's STMP rate limiting:

Job exception: Wrapped Net::SMTPAuthenticationError: 454 4.7.0 Too many login attempts, please try again later. ow2sm11059574pdb.14 - gsmtp

Would it be possible to not trigger the digest after migration, since it doesn't exactly make sense to email users of all the "new" posts?

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Image select2.png not found when changing trust levels

March 15, 2015, 12:36 am

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@dandv wrote:

1. Got to a user in the Admin panel
2. Open the Chrome console
3. Click the trust level drop-down/up

_vendor-3ce9dc1f88aba20206e0522651c50938.js:3365 GET http://discourse.quantifiedselfforum.com/assets/select2.png 404 (Not Found)

Pasted image936x514 73.5 KB

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