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Unlisted topic tags may appear in tag list

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@TechnoBear wrote:

Tags used in private staff categories don't appear in the counts on the public tags page to non-staff users, which makes sense. So a tag only used in a staff category doesn't appear on that page at all.

However, a tag added to an unlisted topic does show up on the tags page for anonymous or non-staff members, but the topic doesn't appear on the page for that particular tag.

Oh good - a topic about bears:

Oh pook - no, there isn't.

It doesn't matter whether the topic was tagged before or after it was unlisted; the behaviour is the same. (This happens even if the topic and tag were created by a TL4 member, who has the link to that topic in their profile; the member can see the tag, but not access the topic from that page.)

It seems to me it would make more sense to treat tags on unlisted topics in the same way as tags on private topics, and only show them to moderators/admins.

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Ability to Hide Poll Results

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@Carson wrote:

Our community would like to host a competition where users would vote for winners using a poll. However, you can just click "Show results" and you can see who's winning, this might influence your decision. So is there a way to make results show at a certain time, or make them public manually at a given time? This would also be nice if we were to have a trivia quiz or something like it.

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Alert used to Notify AutoComplete Support?

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@cpradio wrote:

Should this really be an alert? Or can it be a console.log entry?

I'm noticing it appearing on the Poll UI Plugin because I embed the editor in a Modal, while it is still open in on the topic/create new topic.

It initially took me by surprise because I wasn't sure what "only supporting one matcher at the moment" meant, it would be nice if this were 1) more specific, such as, "AutoComplete: only supporting one matcher in an editor at the moment" and 2) a console.log statement, since it isn't really breaking anything (from what I can tell).

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Ssl problem in vagrant?

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@Pad_Pors wrote:

after installing the vagrant and connecting to it, whatever I want to do it ends with this error:

Error: While executing gem ... (Gem::RemoteFetcher::FetchError)
SSL_connect SYSCALL returned=5 errno=0 state=unknown state (http:..rubygems.global.ssl.fastly.net/specs.4.8.gz)

as a result I couldn't run bundle install or even gem update bundler or any other commands in the vagrant.

what should i do?
p.s.: i'm on a windows machine.

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[PAID] Plugin Development

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@Capacitron wrote:

Looking to start a dialogue with a developer for (what I think) should be a simple plugin. Is their a directory of Discourse Developers anywhere? I couldn't really locate one.

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Very similar query repeated 3 times on topic load

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@DeanMarkTaylor wrote:

Very similar query repeated 3 times on topic load after recent rebuild...

Although probably a complete non-issue, but just seemed odd and may point towards another performance optimisation.

Notes:

  • no LIMIT 1 included in last query
  • Additional space between SELECT and "users" in second query.

Executing action: show
T+74.2 ms
Reader
0.8 ms
lib/topic_view.rb:71:in `initialize'
app/controllers/topics_controller.rb:59:in `new'
app/controllers/topics_controller.rb:59:in `show'
lib/middleware/anonymous_cache.rb:129:in `call'
config/initializers/100-quiet_logger.rb:10:in `call_with_quiet_assets'
config/initializers/100-silence_logger.rb:26:in `call'
lib/middleware/request_tracker.rb:73:in `call'
lib/scheduler/defer.rb:85:in `process_client'
lib/middleware/unicorn_oobgc.rb:95:in `process_client'
SELECT "users".* FROM "users" WHERE "users"."id" IN (1)

Executing action: show
T+179.0 ms
Reader
1.0 ms
app/serializers/topic_view_serializer.rb:65:in `details'
app/controllers/application_controller.rb:259:in `render_json_dump'
app/controllers/topics_controller.rb:580:in `block (2 levels) in perform_show_response'
app/controllers/topics_controller.rb:572:in `perform_show_response'
app/controllers/topics_controller.rb:89:in `show'
lib/middleware/anonymous_cache.rb:129:in `call'
config/initializers/100-quiet_logger.rb:10:in `call_with_quiet_assets'
config/initializers/100-silence_logger.rb:26:in `call'
lib/middleware/request_tracker.rb:73:in `call'
lib/scheduler/defer.rb:85:in `process_client'
lib/middleware/unicorn_oobgc.rb:95:in `process_client'
SELECT  "users".* FROM "users" WHERE "users"."id" = 1 LIMIT 1

Executing action: show
T+194.2 ms
Reader
0.8 ms
lib/topic_view.rb:270:in `participants'
app/serializers/topic_view_serializer.rb:86:in `block in details'
app/serializers/topic_view_serializer.rb:85:in `each'
app/serializers/topic_view_serializer.rb:85:in `map'
app/serializers/topic_view_serializer.rb:85:in `details'
app/controllers/application_controller.rb:259:in `render_json_dump'
app/controllers/topics_controller.rb:580:in `block (2 levels) in perform_show_response'
app/controllers/topics_controller.rb:572:in `perform_show_response'
app/controllers/topics_controller.rb:89:in `show'
lib/middleware/anonymous_cache.rb:129:in `call'
config/initializers/100-quiet_logger.rb:10:in `call_with_quiet_assets'
config/initializers/100-silence_logger.rb:26:in `call'
lib/middleware/request_tracker.rb:73:in `call'
lib/scheduler/defer.rb:85:in `process_client'
lib/middleware/unicorn_oobgc.rb:95:in `process_client'
SELECT "users".* FROM "users" WHERE "users"."id" = 1

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Group Semantics

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@Talin wrote:

I'm having a hard time mapping the semantics of groups and categories to the more community-based model of organization that we use in our system.

Background: our intent is to use Discourse as one component in a larger system used by medical researchers to share experimental results. This includes, for example, tools that would allow a user to create a graph showing an analysis of a clinical trial and attach that to a post as an embed. There's also a portal page that leads to various apps, and one of those would be discussion boards based on Discourse.

In our model, users are organized into communities or groups which we call "collaborations", but you can think of them as teams or departments. Each team consists of a set of researchers working on a particular problem. A member of a team who wanted to share some information would post a message to that team. However, occasionally one might want to share data more widely, posting to multiple teams.

As you probably already noticed, this is exactly the semantics of email groups, G+ communities, and many others I could name. If I am working for a company and I am a member of groups A and B, and a message is posted to both A and B, I only get one copy of the message.

Trying to map this on to Discourse's groups: the closest I can get is to write a script to create, for each team, both a group and a category with the same name as the team. However, I can't post to multiple categories (and I imagine that this would be very difficult to change in the code, as I suspect it's pretty well baked into the db schema).

And to be honest, I think categories is the wrong tool for this - a category should really be a collection of posts with related topics, not a collection of posts that are visible by a subset of users.

Ideally, what I'd like to see is a site-specific option to add a 'visible to' field to the compose window, which would default to 'everyone', but where one could put a list of groups (and possibly individual users).

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Discourse and Email Lists (like Google Groups)

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@mcwumbly wrote:

Some reasons to consider using Discourse for you community instead of email lists

Discoverability of content is much easier in Discourse

Searching through email list discussions is tricky, especially those that began prior to you being added to the list. People generally do not consider emails as unique resources they can link to, so discovery by cross reference is minimal or non-existent.

In Discourse, you simply start by skimming topics. It is more natural to link to another post, so discovery of prior, related conversations is more likely. And the search functionality itself is also quite effective.

And when a new user arrives and starts a discussion that is related to an existing topic, it's easy for an existing member to point them to it. Bi-directional links are created automatically when this happens, improving discoverability in the future.

Attention, Noise and Pull vs. Push Participation

Email lists can be noisy. They push emails to every subscriber's inbox and force you must sift through it one way or another. This can lead to a couple unhealthy behaviors:

  1. People start ignoring or filtering messages to a particular list so they don’t actually pay as much attention
  2. People who want to start a wider discussion may feel discouraged from doing so, because they do not want to add to this noise.

On Discourse you pick and choose what you want to read.

Conversations you participate in are tracked automatically with an appropriate noise level based on your participation. If you read something long enough, it will be highlighted in your ‘unread’ list when new posts are made.

Notifications are sent only when you are mentioned, are replied to directly, or when you are explicitly “watching” a topic. And they will only be sent via email if you are not currently active on the site - otherwise, they will only appear within the application.

Discussions are open to a more diverse group of participants

First, messages to email lists only go to the members of that group. Then, sometimes it’s unclear whether you should reply all or just reply to the sender of the message. Other times it’s not clear whether another group should be cc’d or not. This means that people may miss out on a conversation they are interested in. It also means the group misses out on what people who are not on that list may have to add.

With Discourse, conversations are open to everyone regardless of which category they are posted in. At the same time, categories and tags allow the participants a way to gauge their interest as they skim through recent topics, or to dial the noise level up or down on particular categories of topics as they see fit.

When would email still be preferred?

Email lists do still serve a purpose, and moving more conversation to Discourse can make email lists even more effective by increasing their signal-to-noise ratio. If Discourse can reduce the noise on email lists, people won’t need to filter them as much and can pay attention to messages that have that level of urgency.

Email lists are best:

  1. When messages need to be sent to everyone, an email list is still a great place to do that.
  2. When a particular conversation would not have any potential benefit from being more open

Discourse does have built-in group functionality which could also serve these purposes. And there are plans to further improve the mailing list features of Discourse to make it a system that allows members who are more comfortable with email to participate in ways that they are used to.

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Request-URI Too Long

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@depeters wrote:

Because the discourse api has all private message parameters sent as url parameters (including the message) I am getting an exception "Request-URI Too Long" exception when my message is long or my list of recipients combined with my message is too long.

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Confirm password when signing up

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@dandv wrote:

Just got this email from a user today:

One suggestion, to avoid typos when entering the new pwd, perhaps you should use either a duplicate field for them to enter their new pwd, or force them to log in after they enter their new pwd .

Most systems ask for password confirmation when signing up. What were the reasons why Discourse chose not to? Can this be made optional?

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How to make users subscribe to categories just after signing up?

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@mansoorix wrote:

Hi Friends,

I was wondering if there is any way to make users subscribe to categories just after signing up, similar to what Quora does (In Quora users are required to subscribe to feeds in order to complete their membership)

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Email allegedly sent without SMTP settings

Can't log out of read-only mode

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@dandv wrote:

I wanted to log out of read-only mode to test logging in with 3rd party services, but got this error:

DELETE https://forum.quantifiedself.com/session/Dan_Dascalescu 405 (Method Not Allowed)

(followed by a bunch of Ember errors).

It makes sense to not be able to delete my session if the DB is read-only, but perhaps better handling is possible.

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Can I restore backups from older Discourse versions?

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@gkln wrote:

Hi,

I'm new to Discourse and plan to use it in production very soon.

I have a question regarding backups and their relation to the platform version. I read in this topic that in order to restore a backup the source and target Discourse installs must be on the same version. How strong is this constraint?

I'm thinking about the scenario where, for whatever reason, I loose my current Discourse installation (e.g., after a disk drive failure) and need to reinstall it.

As I understand it, the bootstrap process will fetch a new Discourse version. Will I be able to restore backups from the previous installation? If not, do I need to fix the version parameter to make sure I always run the same Discourse version?

Thank you.

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Using Discourse in traditional server

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@sivag wrote:

Hi,

Currently i'm using vbulletin 4.2 in WiredTree VPS.

Can I migrate to discourse ? Is it feasible or should I run it in DO ?

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show_subcategory_list hides New, Unread and Top from menu

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@erlend_sh wrote:

I noticed this over on @john_mardlin's community.coinbase.com, where show subcategory list is enabled.

If I go to...

https://community.coinbase.com/c/coinbase-support

There is no "Latest, Top, New"

However, if I go to...

https://community.coinbase.com/c/coinbase-support/mobile-apps

There is.

I thought "maybe there's a good reason for Discourse behaving like that when sub-categories are listed", but then I noticed that the "Latest, Top, New" menu was also suppressed in parent categories that didn't have any sub-categories, like this one:

https://community.coinbase.com/c/announcements

That strikes me as a UX glitch. I reproduced this on Try to confirm that this isn't happening due to a customisation on Coinbase's forum.

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Sticky category selection

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@erlend_sh wrote:

Should the category-selector stick to its current category selection when you move between "Latest" "New", "Unread" and "Top"? I maintain that this would make for a more consistent browsing experience.

How it currently works is:

One might say this makes sense when "Latest" is the default view, so the Category selector is essentially a "Jump to..." selector, not a filter for whichever view you're on. But this behaviour is unique to Latest. Even if your landing page is set to Top, switching categories will bring you back to the Latest of whichever category you switch to, instead of switching you to the designated landing page of that category.

The example above looks as follows with Top as the default landing page:

This seems to be hardcoded:

https://meta.discourse.org/c/{category}/ == https://meta.discourse.org/c/{category}/l/latest

I'm suggesting Latest/New/Unread/Top should act as filters

More permanence in the top menu selection would ensure more consistent behaviour across different site settings. If I'm browsing a Top list, be it for the entire site or a specific category, let me continue to browse Top content until I explicitly select a different view, i.e. Latest, New or Unread.

In other words:

  • Switching view modes (Latest, Top, Unread, New) should not affect current category selection.
  • Switching categories (feature, dev, meta etc.) should not affect current view mode.

Related:

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Seeking a better way to organize plugin site settings

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@Mittineague wrote:

I am in the process of updating my "plugin outlet locations" plugin.

AFAIK there are currently 42 plugin outlets.
I could have only one setting that enables / disables them as a whole, but I would prefer to offer more granular control of displaying the individual plugin outlet locations.

I can use the settings.yml file to add the settings to the
Admin -> Settings [Plugins] pane
BUT even if it is a "developer only" plugin it seems a bit rude to add 42 settings into the mix.

Alternatively, I can use the settings.yml file to add a "button" i.e.
Admin -> Settings [plugin name]
that goes to a pane with the settings.
BUT although this seems less rude, it doesn't feel right adding a plugin button to what otherwise consists of application buttons.

What I would like to do is add the settings to
Admin -> Plugins [plugin name]

After working through the "Purple Tentacle" tutorial, I am able to have the template work with the controller. And I can display settings in it.

But I have been unable to find the way to include settings controls into it.

It may be that what I have tried was just going about it the wrong way, it's equally as likely that I tried the right way but didn't have the right syntax needed.

A point in the right direction will be most appreciated. TIA

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SVG image as digest logo has limited support

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@Simon_Cossar wrote:

SVG images are not rendered in Gmail or Outlook 2013 email clients. For this reason they are not a good choice for the digest logo. Should this be mentioned in the description under the 'digest logo url' setting? Something like 'SVG images have limited support across email clients.'

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Send email digest to site admins

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@Simon_Cossar wrote:

The administrators of a site are unlikely to see their own email digest as it appears in an actual email client. The problem with this is that email clients are very inconsistent in the way they render an email. Either the digest could be automatically sent to admins, or there could be a button on the 'Preview Digest' page for sending the digest to the admin.

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